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Old 06-29-2009, 10:15 PM
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I like Victorys ok but the vision is ugly.
The new Iron Works mag has a picture of the gauges and dash panel and I could not believe it but they carried the clown motif over to the instruments .
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I think it's so ugly that I like it. The mini dvd players for driver and passenger sounds cool on the highway. Might be fun to buzz around town on it to get stared at, but I would have to wear a super hero mask and outfit. Nothing too tight and definately not purple leather.

What does a hybrid bike sound like? I'm guessing wet fart.
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Victory Vision isn't ugly. Certainly nicer looking than a Road Glide or Ultra Classic Electra Glide.
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The Japanese have always been two steps behind in there copping of designs and production of there street bikes, They are finally taking giant step forward in defining what the definitive Japanese street bike should look like. I wish them good luck. I think they will need it.
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IMHO the Vision still holds the title for ugliest bike.
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Ha, I actually like the looks of a Victory Vision. I like the art deco look. But that's me.
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The Japanese have always been two steps behind in there copping of designs and production of there street bikes, They are finally taking giant step forward in defining what the definitive Japanese street bike should look like. I wish them good luck. I think they will need it.
Are you a GM or Chrysler exec by any chance?

Harley has done an incredible job of refining (and mildly redefining) the American motorcycle. Indian has failed multiple times and isn't even American-owned anymore. Victory is doing okay with cruisers, but the Vision hasn't created a whole new market segment.

The Japanese revolutionized the motorcycle market in the 70s with the UJM, and in the 80s with the sport bike, which has evolved at a much faster rate than any other segment. They own the "youth" market that Harley is working so hard to capture (they have to share a bit with the Italians). Their cruisers have been less successful, but for the most part they live at a price point that Harley can't (or doesn't want to) touch.

I love Harleys and there's no doubt about their success, especially over the last few decades. They've done an incredible job of staking and growing a market segment in a very competitive atmosphere. Everyone at Harley has worked hard to do that; if they'd been as dismissive of the competition as you, there probably wouldn't be a large American motorcycle manufacturer.
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