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I have a '09 Softail Custom with Screaming Eagle slip-ons and stage 1 air cleaner kit I installed. I took it to the HD dealer where I purchased the bike and had them do the HD Stage 1 download. Ever since when I start the bike up for the first time of the day, or after it sits for several hours (enough for the engine to get cold) it blows black smoke out the exhaust. If you crack the throttle and raise the RPM's it really pushes out the black smoke. After a few minutes it seems to quit and I don't see the black smoke any more.
I don't know alot about EFI systems on bikes but I have been an auto tech for the last 25 years, and this doesn not seem like it is right or good for the bike.
Anyone have any experience with a situation like this or maybe can tell me if it will have an adverse affect on the bike.
Thanks
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In the olden days, black smoke was valves, blue smoke was rings.
If we follow this your valve seals are leaking a bit and need to be replaced.
...gene
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2003 Road King Classic
SE Air, Slip-ons, ME880
Andrews EZ Pushrods
Thundermax w/Autotune
Max Power 71.22, Max Torque 80.54 @6000ft elevation (pre-TMax)
In the olden days, black smoke was valves, blue smoke was rings.
If we follow this your valve seals are leaking a bit and need to be replaced.
...gene
???? black smoke is fuel,blue smoke is oil.your just a little rich on cold start,if you had a powercommander (or any other tunable system),you could lean it out a bit,but if it stops in a couple minutes when bike warms alittle,i wouldnt sweat it
kirby
vee twin racing
Thanks for the advice. And as far as black smoke being fuel related you are absolutely correct. Too much fuel going into the cylinders ends up going out the exhaust as black smoke. I'll keep an eye on it and make sure it doesn't get worse. I don't have any way of monitoring what the EFI system is doing unlike I am able to do with cars, so you can see why I'm asking.
How has your fuel mileage been? The EFI has richer cold start AFR settings, but a stage 1 download shouldn't affect it much. Does the bike start with less smoke after an overnight or few days rest? If so, maybe an injector is leaking and then the excess fuel dries out overnight.
Otherwise it could be any number of "hard starting" associated problems.
It is merely the warmup enrichment function of your ecm, which I believe lasts 90 seconds, the amount of fuel added is an afr multiplier table and controled by engine temp, an easily adjusted table with SERT/TTS type tuners. Likely those tables are not exactly correct for your application, really nothing to worry about.
Black Smoke from exhaust on cold start
