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Old 11-05-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default possible ignition problems (check engine light)

New to the forum, fired bike up the other day engine light came on, bike running weird road it for 10 minutes parked it.
Today I figured i'd disconect the battery and reset the computer, fired it back up four ways flashed and they shut off then engine light came on then dash light shut off and then came back on. The worst thing is the pipes at the head started glowing red shut it off. I don't know if its retarding the timming or its leaning out don't want engine dammage.
`04 fatboy2" drags, k&n filter, stock ecu remaped.
Please help Thankyou
Bill
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:53 PM
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Default RE: possible ignition problems (check engine light)

Use this to pull up the code it is throwing...
Check it out!

The IM (instrument module) is capable of displaying DTC's (diagnostic trouble codes).
Speedometer Self Diagnostics: The speedometer is capable of displaying and clearing speedometer, tachometer, TSM/TSSM and ICM/ECM Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC).

1- Turn Ignition switch to OFF & Run/Stop switch is to Run.

2- Push odometer reset button in & hold.

3- Turn ignition switch to Ignition and release odometer reset button. Background lighting sould illuminate, speedometer needle should sweep its full range and indicator lamps (battery, security, low fuel, check engine and cruise) should illuminate. The word “diag” should then appear.

4 - Push the odometer reset button once and you will see the selection menu "PSSPt" with the first P flashing.

5 - Each letter represents an area of the diagnostics module. The module that is flashing is the one you are going to check. To move from one letter (module) to the next, you push the odometer reset button one time. (from P to S to SP to t and back to P, etc.)
P = ECM/ICM (Electronic Control Module [EFI] / Ignition Control Module [Carbureted])
S = TSM/TSSM (Turn Signal/ Turn Signal Security Module)
SP = speedometer
T = tachometer

6 - To get the DTC within an area of diagnostics, push and hold the odometer reset button in for 5 seconds and release. If there are any DTC’s the code will be displayed or the word “none” will appear if there are no DTC’s. Push the odometer reset button again to view additional codes if they exist.

7 - Record the codes.

8 - If DTC’s are not to be cleared, Press and release the odometer reset button. Part number of module will be displayed.
NOTE: To determine if a code is current or historic, clear the displayed code by pushing in and holding the odometer reset button ( longer than 5 seconds) until 'clear' comes up. Release the odometer reset button. Turn OFF the ignition switch. Run your bike and shut it down then recheck the DTC’s again by repeating steps 1 to 9. If the code is current it will reappear.

9 – Press and release the odometer reset button to continue to the next module.

10 – Turn Ignition switch to OFF.

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DTC FAULT CONDITION MODULE

B0563 Battery Voltage High TSM/TSSM
B1004 Fuel Level Sending Unit Low Instruments
B1005 Fuel Level Sending Unit High/Open Instruments
B1006 Accessory Line Overvoltage Instruments
B1007 Ignition Line Overvoltage Instruments
B1008 Reset Switch Closed Instruments
B1131 Alarm Output Low TSM/TSSM
B1132 Alarm Output High TSM/TSSM
B1134 Starter Output High TSM/TSSM
B1135 Accelerometer Fault TSM/TSSM
B1151 Sidecar BAS Low TSM/TSSM
B1152 Sidecar BAS High TSM/TSSM
B1153 Sidecar BAS Out of Range TSM/TSSM
P0106 MAP Sensor Rate of Range Error Carb
P0107 Map Sensor Failed Open/Low Carb
P0107 Map Sensor Open/Low EFI
P0108 Map Sensor Failed High Carb
P0108 Map Sensor High EFI
P0112 IAT Sensor Voltage Low EFI
P0113 IAT Sensor Voltage Open/High EFI
P0117 ET Sensor Voltage Low EFI
P0118 ET Sensor Voltage Open/High EFI
P0122 TP Sensor Open/Low EFI
P0123 TP Sensor High EFI
P0261 Front Injector Open/Low EFI
P0262 Front Injector High EFI
P0263 Rear Injector Open/Low EFI
P0264 Rear Injector High EFI
P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent Carb
P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent EFI
P0374 CKP Sensor Not Detected Carb
P0374 CKP Sensor Synch Error EFI
P0501 VSS Low Carb
P0501 VSS Low EFI
P0502 VSS High/Open Carb
P0502 VSS High/Open EFI
P0505 Loss of Idle Sped Control EFI
P0562 Battery Voltage Low Carb
P0562 Battery Voltage Low EFI
P0563 Battery Voltage High Carb
P0563 Battery Voltage High EFI
P0602 Calibration Memory Error Carb
P0603 EEPROM Failure Carb
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:11 PM
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Thank you so much will give it try now
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:53 PM
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Well here what I got
P= P0563 end PN32725-04

S= 60563 end PN68921-01C

SP= 61006/61007 end PN67033-04

Cleared codes ran bike codes came back
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:59 PM
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Well here what I got
P= P0563 end PN32725-04

S= 60563 end PN68921-01C

SP= 61006/61007 end PN67033-04

Cleared codes ran bike codes came back
All the PNxxxxx-xxx are part numbers.

All the rest are high voltage conditions on sensors and such. I believe you need to check your volatage regulator. It may not be bad and flooding your bike with current.

If you have a volt meter, the easy way to do this is to expose the battery, then start the bike. Let it warm up a bit, and check the voltage at different RPMs. If it goes higher than 14 Volts, then you need to change your voltage regulator.

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Old 11-05-2007, 07:19 PM
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I'll check the voltage thanks, I just replaced the regulator about 3000 miles ago, would this have any affect on EGTs my pipes are getting cherry red I don't want to hurt the engine, Iam sure its another issue?
Thanks again for all your guys help!!!
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:38 PM
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Yep voltage way to high, with increase of rpm increase of voltage i don't know what ther'swere pushing but voltage when up to 17volts, Iam sure if I keep reving it would have went higher, still worried about the pipe glowing!!!
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:13 PM
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I'll check the voltage thanks, I just replaced the regulator about 3000 miles ago, would this have any affect on EGTs my pipes are getting cherry red I don't want to hurt the engine, Iam sure its another issue?
Thanks again for all your guys help!!!
I'm sorry, but what is an EGT?

Glowingheaders *usually* mean the bike is running lean. If you have a way of checking your Air/Fuel ratio, it would be a goodidea, imvho, to do so.
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:26 PM
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Thanks glens. Can't recall coming across that acronym before.
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