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Couple other items I wanted to mention that needed attention/replacement on my 97FLHTPI that you might want to review on your bike.
1. The front spark plug wire insulation was almost worn thru due to age and engine vibration causing continuous chaffing against the adjacent parts that the wire rests against. The rear plug wire looked and checked okay, but a replacement set is not that expensive.
2. The cross over fuel line at the front of the underside of the fuel tank was getting quite deterioated at the ends and needed replacement. The hose is standard good quality automotive type--5/16 inch inner diameter.
Thanks for the additional info. My crossover tube is good because I had to take it off to raise the tank to get room to mess with coil. Does your front plug wire route towards the back and then go back up front towards the coil? Couldn't figure out why it is so long when it looks as if it could be much shorter and to go from the coil to the plug. I did notice that it is kind of got a little build up on the plug side so I will get a new one. I am starting to think the person I bought the bike from just threw it together apart from motor and frame.
Thanks for the inquiry. The quick answer is no it is not, but 1) Waiting for cam position sensor to get here and 2) Just needed to walk away from it for a spell. I did make the drive to the dealer while in the big city and bought the 1998 Service Manual. It kind of hurt $60!, but what a ton of great info about all the crazy wiring which will be a major blessing when I yank the fairing this winter to change bars/radio/fix a couple of guages. Soon as I change the cam position sensor I will be sure to let everyone know if it fixed it or not. Thanks again everyone...what a KILLER site!
book is really worth the money, after a service or two you will forget the $60.
remember there are several real harley dealers that offer 20% off and no tax for parts and acc. and you save the trip back and forth to store..especially if they are ordering part...but waiting time is anything from 1 week to 3 weeks.
they are worth using sometimes when buying the more expensive stuff,
but you need the part number...the simple part numbers are easy to get from catalogs..other stuff is in parts books.
These bikes have a bank angle sensor that can and does fail on occasion as part of the ign trigger inside the "points" cover by where your right foot resides while riding.
So it may be that that unit needs replacing.
Hope this hleps,
Bob
Ok, so I got mad at the thing as it has been sitting for two years now. Put the new cam position sensor on along with a new battery. All crank and no fire on either cylinder. I had the coil bench tested at HD and they said all is good there. Looked for engine light trouble codes. Nothing as fuel pump engages and engine light on for 4 seconds then goes off just like it should. Oh yeah, I put new plugs in too. I did not change plug wires but I thought the chance of both of them going bad at the same time was remote. So, my questions are even though the coil bench tested good, could it still be bad? HD guy said it is rare when those go bad. Should I buy a new coil or just take it in for the $90 diagnostic? I hate to waste $90 for them to tell me it is a bad coil but then again what if it isn't? I have to trailer the thing a 100 miles or so and they want to keep it overnight. What would you do? Thanks again!
Ok, so I got mad at the thing as it has been sitting for two years now. Put the new cam position sensor on along with a new battery. All crank and no fire on either cylinder. I had the coil bench tested at HD and they said all is good there. Looked for engine light trouble codes. Nothing as fuel pump engages and engine light on for 4 seconds then goes off just like it should. Oh yeah, I put new plugs in too. I did not change plug wires but I thought the chance of both of them going bad at the same time was remote. So, my questions are even though the coil bench tested good, could it still be bad? HD guy said it is rare when those go bad. Should I buy a new coil or just take it in for the $90 diagnostic? I hate to waste $90 for them to tell me it is a bad coil but then again what if it isn't? I have to trailer the thing a 100 miles or so and they want to keep it overnight. What would you do? Thanks again!
Pardon if this sounds strange but when the cam position sensor is changed out it most times requires that the plastic electrical 3? wire connector from the old unit be removed and placed on the new unit. Any chance at all that the positioning of the 3 ? wires are incorrect. I am speaking of the black connector with orange? rubber inside that is located on frame. Very easy to hook-up incorrectly when laying on your back under the bike in a tight spot. If the 3 ? wires are incorrectly aligned/placed the the cam sensor hook up would be incorrect. The cam sensor has a vehicle attitude sensor that cuts the motor( no spark) when bike falls...Wrong wiring would give no spark...I am also guessing the cam plate was placed in the one and only fixed position....i am going to roll some dice and take a guess the wiring is incorrect for cam sensor...second idea would be that the ECM connections are not tight...third..is power entering coil... hope this helps.
Thanks for the response. On my way to go check all that out. I would be surprised if it is cps wiring because we were really careful to keep that straight. ECM plug coming loose is another story and very possible.
ECM was solid. I give up. Off to the dealer tomorrow. If I had known that the one I am going to only charges $90 for diagnostic no matter how many hours it takes then I would of done this long ago. The one closest to me acted like they charge $90 an hour and will depend on how long it takes them to trouble shoot it.
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