09 Front Tire Fiasco....
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From: Mishawaka,Indiana
[QUOTE=psychocircus;5755829]i just looked at mine...09, 3300 miles, looks good but ive got the reverse tread thing going on and not too crazy about that feature, for wet rides and such. the other issue is the rear looks like it is starting to cup/ flat spot... i cant get the pressure checked at the dealer cause they told me when i had the first service done that it has green dot caps... meaning it has nitrogen. but they cant check nitrogen pressure...since cupping/flatspotting is a pressure issure what should i do? have the dealer go with air? i like the idea of the nitrogen but cant find a place to check it..[/QUOotTE
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That is a complete farce, you check pressure just like anything else and you can add air to them. Air is 78% nitrogen anyway. Another marketing ploy to sell something we don't need. I agree with use is race cars to help with pressure build up, but street tires forget it. Mike
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That is a complete farce, you check pressure just like anything else and you can add air to them. Air is 78% nitrogen anyway. Another marketing ploy to sell something we don't need. I agree with use is race cars to help with pressure build up, but street tires forget it. Mike
Last edited by rmc115; Oct 25, 2009 at 11:51 AM. Reason: easier to read
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Not on my bike, but on buddy's '09 Ultra
1) the tire looked more like a knobby, that a street tire, you could SEE the difference without shadows
2) not a "warranty issue" but a "rolling change" in design
3) construction of bias ply is in the proper direction, just the tread is reversed
4) I'd be looking into other tires, but that's just me
seems the official stand is there is nothing wrong with the D407F, which one would expect, rather than offer a free replacement. Policy is to use current in-stock 407Fs until supply is gone. The D-407F is now "obsolete" but the current inventory of 407F are now sporting D408F inventory stickers. When my buddy had the dealership replace his "knobby" they ordered a new D408F. He brought the bike in, and when they rolled it out, I could see from inside the showroom, it was the 407. The parts guy, had place the sticker on the bill, and the sticker was clearly labled "D408F". We walked out, and read the tire. The tire was clearly labled "D407F". Parts guy was real good about it, and took a 408 from a new bike, and mounted THAT on friend's bike.
Moral to the story... HD states 5-10 thousand miles is acceptable on a front tire. If you have to replace the tire, be sure to see the tire before mounting.
1) the tire looked more like a knobby, that a street tire, you could SEE the difference without shadows
2) not a "warranty issue" but a "rolling change" in design
3) construction of bias ply is in the proper direction, just the tread is reversed
4) I'd be looking into other tires, but that's just me
seems the official stand is there is nothing wrong with the D407F, which one would expect, rather than offer a free replacement. Policy is to use current in-stock 407Fs until supply is gone. The D-407F is now "obsolete" but the current inventory of 407F are now sporting D408F inventory stickers. When my buddy had the dealership replace his "knobby" they ordered a new D408F. He brought the bike in, and when they rolled it out, I could see from inside the showroom, it was the 407. The parts guy, had place the sticker on the bill, and the sticker was clearly labled "D408F". We walked out, and read the tire. The tire was clearly labled "D407F". Parts guy was real good about it, and took a 408 from a new bike, and mounted THAT on friend's bike.
Moral to the story... HD states 5-10 thousand miles is acceptable on a front tire. If you have to replace the tire, be sure to see the tire before mounting.
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From: Rocky Mtn High CO
i just looked at mine...09, 3300 miles, looks good but ive got the reverse tread thing going on and not too crazy about that feature, for wet rides and such. the other issue is the rear looks like it is starting to cup/ flat spot... i cant get the pressure checked at the dealer cause they told me when i had the first service done that it has green dot caps... meaning it has nitrogen. but they cant check nitrogen pressure...since cupping/flatspotting is a pressure issure what should i do? have the dealer go with air? i like the idea of the nitrogen but cant find a place to check it..
OR maybe take them your air guage from your garage, paint the end green and tell them it's a nitrogen specific air guage and you'll sell it to them for $5000 - cause it's the first one of it's kind in the USA!
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That is a complete farce, you check pressure just like anything else and you can add air to them. Air is 78% nitrogen anyway. Another marketing ploy to sell something we don't need. I agree with use is race cars to help with pressure build up, but street tires forget it. Mike[/quote]
if thats the case... why do they need a special gauge to check nitro pressure?
That is a complete farce, you check pressure just like anything else and you can add air to them. Air is 78% nitrogen anyway. Another marketing ploy to sell something we don't need. I agree with use is race cars to help with pressure build up, but street tires forget it. Mike[/quote]
if thats the case... why do they need a special gauge to check nitro pressure?
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From: lewisville, nc
I hope you are joking, but just in case, my advice is....FIND A NEW DEALER TO GO TO FOR SERVICE. That's complete crap. Gas pressure is gas pressure, whether it's helium, oxygen, nitrogen, argon, or whatever.
OR maybe take them your air guage from your garage, paint the end green and tell them it's a nitrogen specific air guage and you'll sell it to them for $5000 - cause it's the first one of it's kind in the USA!
OR maybe take them your air guage from your garage, paint the end green and tell them it's a nitrogen specific air guage and you'll sell it to them for $5000 - cause it's the first one of it's kind in the USA!
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From: lewisville, nc
yeah, but you have an 08... so we still be s o l
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well I've got 8100 miles now on my 09 d408 front and wondering if anybody has heard of any aftermarket tires available yet or in the works for the 09 touring bikes. both my front 408 and rear 407 are wearing very nicely, no cupping and still plenty of tread left, just starting to wonder since I'm starting to get up there in miles.
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well I've got 8100 miles now on my 09 d408 front and wondering if anybody has heard of any aftermarket tires available yet or in the works for the 09 touring bikes. both my front 408 and rear 407 are wearing very nicely, no cupping and still plenty of tread left, just starting to wonder since I'm starting to get up there in miles.
I don't think any of the aftermarket folks are going to be making tires for the 09 Touring bikes for another year because of the bastard size and marketing aggrements in force.