2nd failure of my inner primary bearing
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From: Washington
Mine started grinding away down in Newport OR Had to ride it down to Coos Bay OR where i had an inlaw living. 14416 miles. Stayed with him And he ran me back and forth to harley, they could not fix it for a week so i tore it down took them the inner primary and they pressed the old bearing out and the new one in. I also had to rent the tool from them to pull and press the race, put it back together retorked and got her going. Finished my trip down to Santa Rosa and back. I payed for all parts and I took note that they had to have my vin number in order for Coos bay to print an invoice for the labor for pressing bearing . Now Coos Bay service and when i returned home the Tacoma service knew nothing about this issue.??? I also fixed the stater rotor issue on my dime before it became a issue!
Last edited by Mark 2; Jul 21, 2009 at 12:33 AM.
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From: Southern Oregon
Hwy 101 Harley is Coos Bay (Oregon) is great and they KNOW about the problem. My buddy just picked up his bike today after having the bearing replaced.
So for those who do not know, here is the scoop. The 06 Dyna's have a knows issue. The bearing will go out, usually at about 15,000 miles. Sometimes sooner and sometimes later, but it will go out.
The dealers have been instructed by the moco to replace these at no charge to the customer for the life of the bike and as often as every 15,000 miles.
So for those who do not know, here is the scoop. The 06 Dyna's have a knows issue. The bearing will go out, usually at about 15,000 miles. Sometimes sooner and sometimes later, but it will go out.
The dealers have been instructed by the moco to replace these at no charge to the customer for the life of the bike and as often as every 15,000 miles.
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From: PacNW; Beacon of Conservatism in a Sea of Liberals.......AZ Snowbird; Just another Conservative
First fail, you get a new bearing & race. Second fail, HD SHOULD replace the IPCase and tranny case with the '07 parts (that have alignment dowels). Just had mine done (2nd failure, 12,500-miles) in May, and I got the "full Monty" fix this time.
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From: Washington
Hwy 101 Harley is Coos Bay (Oregon) is great and they KNOW about the problem. My buddy just picked up his bike today after having the bearing replaced.
So for those who do not know, here is the scoop. The 06 Dyna's have a knows issue. The bearing will go out, usually at about 15,000 miles. Sometimes sooner and sometimes later, but it will go out.
The dealers have been instructed by the moco to replace these at no charge to the customer for the life of the bike and as often as every 15,000 miles.
So for those who do not know, here is the scoop. The 06 Dyna's have a knows issue. The bearing will go out, usually at about 15,000 miles. Sometimes sooner and sometimes later, but it will go out.
The dealers have been instructed by the moco to replace these at no charge to the customer for the life of the bike and as often as every 15,000 miles.
Last edited by Mark 2; Jul 19, 2009 at 03:13 PM.
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My 06 Dyna failed whilst we were supposed to be on the trip of a life time in France just two weeks ago.
Out of warranty and had to get it fixed there and then through some difficult translation. Ł200 odd later we were back on the road, but most of our holiday cash gone. Arriving back in England the noise has come back. Dealer wants it in for two days, I have written to Harley UK about this issue and have heard nothing. I waited 40 odd years to own a Harley (since I was ten) and finally got my Street Bob in May 2006.
Nothing but trouble and heart ache since. You name it, I have had trouble with it.
Plus if my Honda riding neigbour tells me one more time that I should have bought a Pan European I think I will have to bury him.
Mind you I am begining to think he may have a point.
So here I am, its pouring with rain (as usual) no bike, as dealer cannot take it in until the 28th. sitting here pouring my heart out to you guys. Well I hope you all feel very sorry for me. Because I do.
Out of warranty and had to get it fixed there and then through some difficult translation. Ł200 odd later we were back on the road, but most of our holiday cash gone. Arriving back in England the noise has come back. Dealer wants it in for two days, I have written to Harley UK about this issue and have heard nothing. I waited 40 odd years to own a Harley (since I was ten) and finally got my Street Bob in May 2006.
Nothing but trouble and heart ache since. You name it, I have had trouble with it.
Plus if my Honda riding neigbour tells me one more time that I should have bought a Pan European I think I will have to bury him.
Mind you I am begining to think he may have a point.
So here I am, its pouring with rain (as usual) no bike, as dealer cannot take it in until the 28th. sitting here pouring my heart out to you guys. Well I hope you all feel very sorry for me. Because I do.
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I have an 06 dyna with 45,000kms on the clock and my wife has a 07 dyna with 33,000kms. She originally had a 06 as well but got rid of it because of alot more vibration than mine.
Sounds like this bearing issue could be a problem for both bikes, however the 07 has 96cu engine so should have improved gearbox case.
Should we get bearings replaced at next service? I am not one to be reactive if I can be proactive with information provided on these forums. We are in Australia and it can be a long long way between towns if they stop in nowheresville.
Sounds like this bearing issue could be a problem for both bikes, however the 07 has 96cu engine so should have improved gearbox case.
Should we get bearings replaced at next service? I am not one to be reactive if I can be proactive with information provided on these forums. We are in Australia and it can be a long long way between towns if they stop in nowheresville.
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From: Warwickshire, UK.
If we had this SB then when we got the blank looks from the dealers we could say 'look here bozo'.
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From: PacNW; Beacon of Conservatism in a Sea of Liberals.......AZ Snowbird; Just another Conservative
There's no service bulletin that I know of. Start by calling HD Customer Service in Milwaukee. Scratch that!! Start by reading the full thread I started titled, "Finally Good News...." from May of '09. It has all you need to know about this issue, and how to get HD to fix it free.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...y-bearing.html
When you call Customer Service, be sure you mention you have the "pink letter" that is an addendum to the Owner's Manual (sez they'll fix it every 15K-mi). Wouldn't hurt to follow any other thread links you may find within my thread. PM me for any particulars.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...y-bearing.html
When you call Customer Service, be sure you mention you have the "pink letter" that is an addendum to the Owner's Manual (sez they'll fix it every 15K-mi). Wouldn't hurt to follow any other thread links you may find within my thread. PM me for any particulars.
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From: Houston
I know this has been discussed over and over. But for those of you who have had problematic 06' inner primary bearings issues, you must read PKellyMC thread on this subject.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...y-bearing.html
I have had 3 IPB failures since I purchased the bike new in 06', each time I presented the original "Amendment To Owner's Manual" pink slip, and there was no charge. But then there was that 'sound' again. I didnt want another quick fix this time, I wanted it fixed right.. After reading Patrick Kelly's previously mentioned thread, I PM'ed him with a few questions...
The following is his reply. This is the guide that I followed step by step. Resulting in HD installing a new Chrome 07' doweled IP case, 07' doweled Transmission case, with a new Transmission gear pack. Plus they replaced the stator and rotor with a new compensator package. Now I feel that the 06' IPB issue is finally behind me.
This was Patrick's PM response to me:
Ronn
As to your IPB issue, wow!, 3 fails and they haven't done the "full Monty" fix yet. I'm going to assume that you've read my thread "Finally, Good News..." If you haven't yet, I'd recommend you start there. My friend (and HD dealership owner) Andreas provided me with the exploded view diagrams of the difference between the '06 and '07 IP Case; these can be found in the aforementioned thread. Start first with a phone call to Customer service in Milwaukee. This will get you a reference number that your, or any other shop can access. Describe in detail (and politely!) the headaches you've had so far, and ask that they PLEASE authorize the fix that includes the '07 transmission and IP Cases with the alignment dowels. My 2nd failure this May was outside the original warranty, and I have the extended warranty, but HD covered the fix on their own so I didn't have to pay the $50 co-pay/deductible.
I would tell the C-S person that several of us Forum members have gotten the full Monty fix upon our 2nd IPB failure and that, going on your 4th failure, you feel you should receive the same treatment. I'd stress that the continual failures and bearing replacements unfairly deprive you of riding time, and you're afraid to plan a long road trip, one of the reasons you bought a Harley in the first place.
You already have the original "Amendment To Owner's Manual" letter. Have the case drawings in front of you that I mentioned earlier.
I wouldn't discuss the chrome IP Case issue with C-S; that's pretty much between you and your shop. When/if they get the authorization from HD to give you the full Monty fix, there will be a list of stock parts that HD will provide to do the fix. Talk to your shop's parts guy and ask him to order you a chrome IP Case at the same time ($299)...be sure to order an '07 case! When they get in all the parts, have them install the chrome one, and return the black case ($399) for credit. Even paying the 15% restocking fee, the shop will come out money ahead.
Good Luck
Patrick Kelly
Thanks Patrick
I also feel that a special thanks should go out to Christy, Lucky and Tim at San Jacinto Harley as well. They went to bat for me during the communications with the Milwaukee group. They really took the extra steps that make a great service dept. They really did more than they had too. I really cant say enough about this service team and their help.....
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...y-bearing.html
I have had 3 IPB failures since I purchased the bike new in 06', each time I presented the original "Amendment To Owner's Manual" pink slip, and there was no charge. But then there was that 'sound' again. I didnt want another quick fix this time, I wanted it fixed right.. After reading Patrick Kelly's previously mentioned thread, I PM'ed him with a few questions...
The following is his reply. This is the guide that I followed step by step. Resulting in HD installing a new Chrome 07' doweled IP case, 07' doweled Transmission case, with a new Transmission gear pack. Plus they replaced the stator and rotor with a new compensator package. Now I feel that the 06' IPB issue is finally behind me.
This was Patrick's PM response to me:
Ronn
As to your IPB issue, wow!, 3 fails and they haven't done the "full Monty" fix yet. I'm going to assume that you've read my thread "Finally, Good News..." If you haven't yet, I'd recommend you start there. My friend (and HD dealership owner) Andreas provided me with the exploded view diagrams of the difference between the '06 and '07 IP Case; these can be found in the aforementioned thread. Start first with a phone call to Customer service in Milwaukee. This will get you a reference number that your, or any other shop can access. Describe in detail (and politely!) the headaches you've had so far, and ask that they PLEASE authorize the fix that includes the '07 transmission and IP Cases with the alignment dowels. My 2nd failure this May was outside the original warranty, and I have the extended warranty, but HD covered the fix on their own so I didn't have to pay the $50 co-pay/deductible.
I would tell the C-S person that several of us Forum members have gotten the full Monty fix upon our 2nd IPB failure and that, going on your 4th failure, you feel you should receive the same treatment. I'd stress that the continual failures and bearing replacements unfairly deprive you of riding time, and you're afraid to plan a long road trip, one of the reasons you bought a Harley in the first place.
You already have the original "Amendment To Owner's Manual" letter. Have the case drawings in front of you that I mentioned earlier.
I wouldn't discuss the chrome IP Case issue with C-S; that's pretty much between you and your shop. When/if they get the authorization from HD to give you the full Monty fix, there will be a list of stock parts that HD will provide to do the fix. Talk to your shop's parts guy and ask him to order you a chrome IP Case at the same time ($299)...be sure to order an '07 case! When they get in all the parts, have them install the chrome one, and return the black case ($399) for credit. Even paying the 15% restocking fee, the shop will come out money ahead.
Good Luck
Patrick Kelly
Thanks Patrick
I also feel that a special thanks should go out to Christy, Lucky and Tim at San Jacinto Harley as well. They went to bat for me during the communications with the Milwaukee group. They really took the extra steps that make a great service dept. They really did more than they had too. I really cant say enough about this service team and their help.....